Many spiritual gurus say that the identification with the mind is the greatest obstacle to our enlightenment, but what the crap does it mean? In this episode, I help us pull this concept out of the self-help books and into a tangible understanding of when we are using the mind and when the mind is using us. Continuing our conversation from previous episodes, we learn this nuance so that we may be free from compulsive thinking, move into the space between thought and discover what communing with our own Divine Beingness feels like.